https://anchor.fm/s/f65b08f0/podcast/play/98297225/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-1-10%2F394625695-44100-2-6d764f6227439.m4aOriginal Broadcast: 2-FEB-25. Host: Madi
